here now to talk more about the fiscal cliff and michigan. jack bernstein. and kate obenshane. author of divider in chief. you know, kate. i think jarod should think about how strong this right to work law is passing michigan. that is the union wonderland. the country is running against the unions. studieow the right to work states outperform the other states. i think we are looking at different studies. i think kate said this is something that -- defamation of unions. it gives the worker the kind of choice. that is the thing. it is the mill of the union leaders pocketing off of the workers and the undue influence and the rising cost of government. this is recognition that we have to get control over out-of-control governments. i think you were more accurate the first time. i idea here is that you have a free rider problem. when you have folks that are not paying union dues. kate's comment is right. it is a union breaking measure. some people see the unions as a free rider. picking the pockets of non union employees on union work sites. i think you should tell the president and